Vi le Sritoe pe la Cefli
that is, on the desk of the CEO of the Loglan Institute
Welcome to the doubtless somewhat untidy web presence of Randall Holmes,
qua "chief executive officer" of the Loglan Institute (the title seems excessively grand, but that is what it is, officially).
I prefer la Cefli, in Loglan :-) I am tidying up this page on 10/19/2024. My email is m.randall.holmes@gmail.com
The Loglan Institute (TLI) is the official organization which coordinates
the development of the artifical human language Loglan. The official Loglan web site is here: that is the place to look for lots of general information and resources on the language. This web site is probably more to the point for recent developments in the language, but there is a great deal of value on the official site, and we thank James Jennings for keeping it going.
Basic resources
Here is a good place to start finding out what Loglan is, Loglan
I (fourth edition) by James Cooke Brown.
Here is a
a revision of Loglan 1 in progress; I have completed a first editing pass.
It includes a version of the PEG (I am not sure how recent) with comments as an appendix, perhaps intended to have cross-links to the text. This version of Loglan 1 corrects the text to work correctly with the current grammar and parser. It contains additional notes by Holmes explaining the reasons for changes.
Here is Alex Leith's Easy Loglan proposal with some minor changes and comments by me.
The reference grammar
This
is the proposed reference grammar for the language. Originally, I intended to submit this as a series of proposals to an advisory Keugru (a version of the old Loglan Academy of the same name) but that group has not been active. So it is a body of proposals to the community, backed up by the fact that the parser implements the syntactical parts of these proposals (mod bugs). Discussion is very welcome; I would love it if people would test this document by reading it.
Parser resources
- The current official parser here, in a one-file format incorporating the PEG engine and preamble.
- The PEG grammar for the official parser in a compact form here. In its fully commented form
here.
A test parser which allowed multiple arguments before the predicate was posted here earlier. We may presently reinstate it (or allow it to supersede the present version) after some projected editing of the grammar and some tests of this concept with the text of the novella, A Visit to Loglandia.
A note to myself: I should add a note describing how to build a new parser if one knows how to edit the PEG, which would contain links to finer components of the parser now not visible here.
Dictionary resources
You can run the parser in a web page here. This still works but not in our experience very well.
Loglan 3
- Here is volume 1 of Loglan 3, by Stephen Rice, our one language textbook so far.
- Here is volume 2 of Loglan 3
- Here is volume 3 of Loglan 3
- Here is my not yet complete commentary on Stephen Rice's Loglan 3, which remains our best teaching material. The commentary notes some mistakes and some anachronisms; as long as those are kept in mind, I strongly recommend studying this text. I have a version of Loglan 3 which I am able to edit: I may presently post a revised version.
Notebook 3 (historical but important)
Here is a nice accessible version of Notebook 3, the complete description of the language as it was in 1987. Much has changed, but this document is still interesting.
Some reports to the Institute
- I would say that these reports are themselves historical material by now. One thing which happened was that successive reports evolved into the reference grammar presented above.
- Here is the public agenda of the Institute which I prepared when I started active work on curating the language in 2013:
Public Agenda of TLI
- Here is an agenda document
(the Spring 2018 Report on the State of the Loglan Language;
this has been steadily updated since Fall 2015) which is intended
be essentially a complete report on the state of the language from
my perspective as of Spring 2018. It includes a list of issues that I have worked on,
an updated text of the reference grammar, a list of current proposals (including new ones),
the complete PEG grammar (I am still updating annotations to it), and the trial.85 grammar.
It is a substantial document.
- Here the annual report of 2019: 2019 Annual Report.
Online social access to Loglandia
There is a Discord server devoted to Loglan: this is an invitation to it.
A small group meets every week at 9 am Pacific time in the online world Second Life to talk (well, mostly write) in and about Loglan. You can ask me about it if interested.
On the rest of this page you will find my current Loglan projects and some general information about the Loglan language, its history, and its relationships with other artificial languages.
My current Loglan projects
Parser
I have developed and am still tinkering with [it is now pretty stable] a parser for Loglan, which has involved investigating and sometimes proposing modifications to
all sorts of features of the language.
The problem with the original state of things was that
LIP (the old parser) was based on a now publicly available formal grammar which was provably unambiguous (as per our aims) on the level of grammar, but which was much more opaque (and demonstrably had errors) in the area of parsing individual words. It is legacy software, and I have no way to maintain it conveniently, and further it is now outdated. So I have written and am maintaining my own parser.
The parser uses PEG (Parsing Expression Grammars), a
scheme for developing parsers (developed by Bryan Ford) described
here. This differs from a use of a BNF grammar disambiguated using yacc which underlies LIP, and does raise questions about ambiguity (or more correctly, unintended parse) problems.
The Python programs which call the parser to parse Loglan text and the PEG grammar of the official parser and a test parser are provided at the top of the page.
Sample texts
I set up the teaching corpus in Notebook 3 as input to the parser. This has had to be edited repeatedly as the language has changed quite a bit since Notebook 3. Here
is the file corpus-original.llg
of parsed Loglan sentences (if you have the file
corpus-original.txt,
this file is generated by typing >corpus-original in the parser interface), this now contains the entire teaching corpus in NB3
modified to work with the current grammar. This is up to date; it's the first test suite for each parser update.
Here and here
find translations of my friend Laura's poems.
Here is a translation of a small opening segment of the Old English poem Beowulf, with parses
here and a version that doesn't parse but does have notes here.
The Visit to Loglandia
I have finished parsing the text of the Visit to Loglandia, the novel by Alex Leith which is the largest single Loglan text again
It may be useful to note that my input files include comments on the revisions I had to make in the text
to make it parse.
The particular points that often need repair in this text are worth noting and given here.
Here is the text of the first installment of the Visit in the format I fed
to the parser. I converted this one to phonetic transcript format. This is from the first time I parsed the Visit, but it still works.
Here is the text of the entire Visit to Loglandia (original lines with #, edited lines without, additional comments with #). This is the entire text, in its original form and my form edited to parse, with occasional editorial comments.
Here is the previous document with, in addition, all the parses. This is monstrously large.
More texts in a separate page
Here is a selection of other texts, edited in the past into parsable form and recently parsed with the latest official parser. (Well, Laura's poems haven't been parsed that recently, but should be correct).
Recordings
Here are some readings by different speakers of Le Tcidaa Cirhea, a dialogue whose text is on pp. 73-4 of Loglan 3 vol. 1. Others are invited to contribute to this collection!
Comments on pronunciation in this recordings are also welcome.
- Randall (native English speaker): here
- Cyril (native Russian speaker): here
- La Bekli (native English speaker): here
The Nepo Cervo Janto project is here: the intention here is to read chapter 23 of the Visit aloud. This is not complete, but a lot of it is done.
Dictionary Work (with Torrua and Peter Hill)
Here are the current trial drafts of
the English-to-Loglan
and Loglan-to-English
dictionaries in Torrua's latest version.
Here is the latest
version of the
database (for use with Peter Hill's dictionary program).
Here is the Windows executable of the dictionary program. Advice on how to use it will be given if requested.
Please, if you save dictionaries of your own, use the file labelling procedures so they can be told
from the official version(s). If you want it in some other OS, you might need to ask Peter Hill
if it is convertible, or write your own.
Here is a a possibly useful note on reading dictionary entries.
Here is something utterly mad,
a complete parse down to letters of the all the keys in the L-to-E dictionary.
work on Notebook 3 and more generally on historical documents
Here
is a version of Notebook 3, one of our founding documents (1987), which has been scanned and OCR'ed by Gleki Arxokuna
and post-OCR proofread and edited by Peter Hill. This is the unmodified original.
Here is an inventory of all Loglan documents held by the Institute. Anyone who has Institute documents that we do not have is encouraged to contact us.
As I edit this page on 10/20/2024, I note that I have an outstanding project of scanning the old periodicals listed in the inventory and making them available.
Here are scans of Notebook 1, titled Machine Grammar and Corpus of Loglan, and Notebook 2, titled A Proposed Revision of the Structure of Loglan Words, both from 1982.
- Here: The trial 19 grammar
- Here: a glossary of Loglan grammatical terms
- Here: the corpus part 1
- Here: the corpus part 2
- Here: the corpus part 3 and the source of the preparser
- Here: Notebook 2 part 1
- Here: Notebook 2 part 2
- Here: Notebook 2 part 3
- Here: Notebook 2 part 4
La Keugru: the Loglan Academy
The Loglan Academy was a small group which made official decisions about updates to the formal definition of the language. It is now inactive, and I am making proposals myself...which does not preclude proposals by other Loglanists, or an effort to revive an Academy.
Here is a pointer to Appendix H of Loglan I,
which details the past work of the Academy.
Institutional and historical information
The Loglan project was founded by James Cooke Brown (JCB) in about 1955: it was originally intended as a tool to test the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. To test the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis in the laboratory, he needed a language which was manageably small, but nonetheless a human language, and which was extreme in some respect, so that it might be expected to have Whorfian effects. He chose to make the language extremely logical; he also chose to make it syntactically unambiguous. The aim was that the structure of a Loglan sentence can always be determined precisely, and indeed that Loglan can be parsed by a computer.
At Brown's death in 2000, Robert A McIvor was CEO of the Institute; in 2008 when McIvor retired from this role he appointed me. I am not a member of the original group that built the language, though I had some personal contact with JCB and served as the logical consultant (la Lodtua) for a while in the 1990's; I am always interested to learn more about the earlier history of the project from those who were there. The Academy which made official decisions about the development of the language had made its last ruling in 1996 and was essentially defunct until I reconstituted it in 2013.
There is a sister language, Lojban, whose main web site is here, Ido to our Esperanto. The schism between the two languages happened about 1987 and culminated, alas, in a lawsuit, hinging on the fact that JCB claimed copyright on the word "Loglan" and on the Loglan vocabulary. He lost the point about the word, and the other language as a result has (or had originally) quite similar grammar and semantics and an unintelligible vocabulary (though even the vocabulary is formally similar in important ways). The two languages have drifted apart since, but are still quite closely related. Lojban has a much larger community and more activity. I think the original
language still has something to offer, and the existence of two
languages may provide some opportunities as well. Whatever the situation in the past, TLI is on good terms with the LLG which steers the development of Lojban, and though we do claim that essential materials of Loglan are the intellectual property of TLI and/or of their individual authors, we make them freely available to anyone with a private interest in learning the language or experimenting with modifications of the language (including Lojbanists!). Before undertaking any other use of the materials (and certainly before making any claim that your favorite modification is a feature of TLI Loglan!), please talk to us.
Here
is another related language. And here
is yet another!